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On the air with The Come Up Show's Adulis “Chedo” Mokanan 

How the hip-hop broadcaster and podcaster started from the bottom – or at least the graveyard time slot – and worked his way up to big interviews, Manifesto programming and book publishing 

BY KEVIN RITCHIE  DECEMBER 14, 2016 

Interviewing Adulis “Chedo” Mokanan is not unlike listening to his podcast, The Come Up Show. 

For nearly 10 years, the 30-year-old has been doing deep-dive interviews with local and international hip-hop luminaries, from Boi-1da, T-Minus and Rich Kidd to Kendrick Lamar, Phife Dawg and The Game, and many acts that have yet to break through. 

He revels in professional development anecdotes that reveal how artists came to do what they do. His own come-up story, as told to NOW, includes telling details that illustrate the kind of intrepid determination he admires in others. 

Mokanan moved from Eritrea to Saudi Arabia and then to London, Ontario, with his family in 1996 at age 10. A hip-hop fan since high school, he would DJ clean versions of rap hits in the cafeteria. He started The Come Up Show in 2007 after volunteering at University of Western Ontario’s radio station, 94.9 CHRW. 

The show started in the graveyard slot, but as it expanded into a blog and video, the interviews started going viral, and he landed a 6 pm slot on Saturday nights. 

Now based in Toronto, The Come Up Show has evolved into a weekly podcast. Mokanan also programs for the Manifesto Festival’s Yonge-Dundas Square stage and has put the life lessons he’s learned into the about-to-be-published e-book Social Media Is Bullshit: An Artist’s Guide On How To Market To Your Fans, which will be available at thecomeupshow.com. 

INITIALLY, YOUR RADIO SHOW FOCUSED ON MUSIC. WHEN DID YOU START DOING INTERVIEWS? 

All these artists were coming to town and giving me their music for free. I was like, “How come people don’t know about this? How come my friends don’t know this?” The show went from playing good American hip-hop to focusing on the Canadian scene because it needed as much attention as possible. Back then, Canadian hip-hop wasn’t what it is now. 

You knew the Kardinals and Choclairs, but not indie hip-hop. When I started The Come Up Show, there were CRTC CanCon rules that said we had to play 40 per cent, but because it’s campus radio, they don’t want to screw up, so they played an extra 5 per cent. That really put me in the local scene. 

HOW DID YOU GROW THE COME UP SHOW’S AUDIENCE BACK THEN? 

In the summertime, I went to this club called Jim Bob Ray’s every Wednesday – it was the poppin’ spot. I borrowed my dad’s Buick Century, pulled up in front of the club and handed out flyers. You know Vistaprint.com? You can print out free business cards, and on the back it says, “This card was printed by Vistaprint.” All you had to pay for was shipping. I had a simple template saying, “Hey guys, from 2 to 6 am I’m playing music. I’ll be your after-party music.” People working the graveyard shift at McDonald’s, Walmart, factories and taxi drivers became my audience. The show got popular so I was able to get a better slot. 

WHY ARE YOU SO INTERESTED IN PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT? 

Before I started the show I was just an average guy, hanging out with my friends and drinking. When I started The Come Up Show, I changed. I started saving my money and instead of spending $100 at the club, I’d save that to make T-shirts for the show. I started reading personal development books. I wanted to learn about success. Don Miguel Ruiz’s The Four Agreements changed my life. 

WHEN DID THE SHOW START GAINING MOMENTUM? 

It wasn’t until one of my fans, a skateboarder who recorded videos of him and his friend skating, said, “Can I record one of your interviews?” The big one was Raekwon in Grand Bend for the Grand Bender Festival in 2009. It was uploaded on Facebook and YouTube, and blogs start picking it up. I was like, “Oh, damn, there’s something here.” I was getting so many submissions from artists that I needed another platform, so I started the blog. 

Doing video interviews became the hustle. I went from doing it in London to doing it Toronto. For a few years I was driving back and forth. Then I moved here two years ago. 

HAS THE SHOW BENEFITED FROM THE ATTENTION ON TORONTO’S HIP-HOP SCENE? 

With the attention there is now on Toronto, the average mainstream fan is open. They’ll come to a show and check out Sean Leon, Daniel Caesar or K. Forest. They won’t have the Screwface. 

IS THE SCREWFACE ERA OVER? 

I now sense optimism as I’m talking to artists. If artists are working on their own, they’re focused on their journey, and it’s like, “Yo, let me do my thing,” compared to “I don’t want to work with this person.” More artists are working together. And I think the more opportunity there is for artists to work together, the better. 

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