Date: Wednesday, 23 July 2025
https://ericzuesse.substack.com/p/tucker-carlson-insulted-germanys
https://theduran.com/tucker-carlson-insulted-germanys-chancellors-to-bild-newspaper/
Tucker Carlson insulted Germany’s Chancellors, to BILD newspaper.
U.S. and German participation in the Gaza genocide was ignored.
23 July 2025, by Eric Zuesse. (All of my recent articles can be seen here.)
Tucker Carlson, who is easily the top opinion-leader of Trump’s political base, was interviewed on July 19th for two hours by BILD (or “Picture”), which is the far-right (pro-imperialist and militarist), pro-CDU/CSU and pro-Likud, German newspaper that’s allied with Israel’s far-right newspaper Israel Hayom, which is owned by the far-right Israeli-American mega-billionaire Miriam Adelson, who was a top megadonor both to Trump and to Netanyahu and wants all Gazans eliminated from Gaza (though she is not so stupid as to have said it explicitly and publicly).
To my knowledge, the only other time when Carlson was publicly interviewed was by Lex Fridman on 27 February 2024, but this 19 July 2025 interview of him by BILD was far more revealing about Carlson personally — he explained his political views, and their roots in his personal background. This interview of him thus provides perhaps the most broadly representative statement of the world-view (ideology) that Trump’s voting-base hold, so that Trump’s voting-base can be understood — how they see the world. (This isn’t necessarily Trump’s world-view — he often lies — but it is instead the world-view that is broadly held by the individuals who vote for him. To the extent that Trump is being honest with his voters, it represents also his own world-view.)
Highlights below show the conflict between the views by Carlson (who is anti-imperialist) and the views by BILD (which totally supports U.S. imperialism), and also logical contradictions within the views by each of the two sides (because both of the participants here base their beliefs upon the Bible, which rampantly self-contradicts and thus can be interpreted in many self-contradictory ways and actually leaves no other real guidance for ethics than the proverbial “Might makes right,” or “The Almighty alone determines what is right and what is wrong” — what philosophers call the “Divine Command Theory”, and that theory underlies both Carlson’s and BILD’s views, which is why both men are called “conservative.”). So: this is to understand BOTH Carlson’s views (which are anti-imperialistic) and the views (which accept and endorse U.S. imperialism and Israeli imperialsim) of the individuals who run Germany and virtually all of the EU (but the interview ignored Israel except in passing references to Trump’a bombing of Iran — there was nothing at all about the Palestinians):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZJTFnRKxMM
“Exclusive: Paul Ronzheimer meets Tucker Carlson | RONZHEIMER.”
19 July 2025. 232,567 views. Paul Ronzheimer is BILD’s deputy editor-in-chief.
Transcript
I think the promise of
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America is the first amendment, is freedom of speech. It’s, it's not simply just a bullet point on a list of rights
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in our system. It is considered a God-given right and the purpose of government is to protect that right.
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[Actually, the U.S. Constitution was written before there were ANY Amendments to it, and makes no reference to any god — nor does any of its Amendments. Furthermore, its opening, its Preamble, says that the U.S. Government will serve the American People, not any god — certainly nothing in the Christian Bible, which Carlson falsely places as being a higher authority in America than our Founders’ 100% secular Constitution. Carlson thereby implicitly denigrates America’s Founders for their non-sectarianism, their secularism, our Founders’ transcendance of mere faith (which any religion relies upon and is based upon) and he by-passes and contradicts the Constitution itself and relies directly upon the 613 Commandments in the first five books of the Bible, and especiallly upon the Ten Commandments — some of which are violated (contradicted) by others of the Bible’s Commandments (such as Deuteronomy 20:16-18) as being the foundation of his own personal ethical viewpoint. He even admitted at 2:18, “I’m a not very self-aware person”; so, his internal contradictions — self-contradictions — aren’t of much interest to him.]
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Certain rights as our documents are
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describing are inaliable. They cannot be taken away. You're born with them because you're created by God and God [NOT the U.S. Constitution]
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bestowed those on you. And so the only purpose of government is to protect those rights. That is the American
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system in a sentence. And I believe in it.
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And I completely believe in our
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system. I think it's been distorted and corrupted, of course, as all human systems are. But I think um Americans
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are basically good people in the most beautiful place on the planet. I've been
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everywhere. I can say that. I think it's the prettiest place. And um and I think we have the best system. And so my
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goal is to try to preserve that system simply by exercising the core right it
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bestows, which is the freedom of speech. That's it.
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I look at the leaders, especially on your continent, which I can't overstate. I
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mean, my ancestors are from Europe, but I love Europe and I spent a lot of the year in Europe. And I look at your leaders, Starmer, your absurd leader in
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Germany [Merz], all these little tiny people. BILD: You mean Friedrich Merz, or you mean Olaf Scholz [his predecessor]? We have a new leader.
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CARLSON: Oh, I I follow it and I know that [about] both of them. I would say all I don't want to single anybody out because I consider
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them all midgets, but more — BILD: but Trump likes him. They have
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a good connection. CARLSON: Who knows what Trump thinks of him? I’m just saying he's absurd. BILD: Why? CARLSON: Because if you think that the
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answer to Germany's many and growing problems is fighting a war with Russia, you're an absurd human being. If you
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can't even defend your own, first of all, if you're allowing foreign troops on your soil, you have no self-respect at all. We have 35 33 35,000 American
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troops on German soil. They've been there for 80 years. BILD: Well, I would say how are they doing that? What would we have done without US
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troops? I would say. CARLSON: I mean, what are you talking about? BILD: Well, they saved us. CARLSON: The Soviet Union fell in the summer of
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1991. You tell me what American troops are saving you from. American troops. And I love American troops. I am
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American. Okay? I'm not against American troops. I know a lot of American troops. I'm merely saying foreign troops from
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another nation on your soil is degrading. It's totally degrading. And
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that is a like basic fact that everyone knows in one of the reasons we had a revolution in this country and threw off
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the colonial yoke of England was because British troops were stationed on our soil dating our daughters, degrading us.
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And that is like a very basic fact that has been consistent through all history.
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When you have foreign soldiers on your soil, you do not have sovereignty. And it's very hard to have self-respect. And
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the fact that no one in Germany can say that, no one in Germany can say, "Wait a second, Russia got eliminated in 1947
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by the United States, Great Britain, and Stalin." And we've never reconstituted
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it. The heart of Germany. We we're we're so embarrassed. And I'm saying this as someone who loves the Germanic people. I
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am a Germanic person. I don't understand how any German leader
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could put up with the level of humiliation that Germany has put up with for 80 years. There's no one living in
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Germany was responsible for the crimes of the 1930s and 40s. I don't understand why you're continuing to pay
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reparations [to Israel], continuing to allow your country to be occupied [by U.S. forces]. I
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don't understand why you don't assert sovereignty. And the truth is the German, Germanic peoples and I'm including you
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know the Dutch and the Scandinavians and a lot of the English as sure you know all Germanic. It's all Germanic.
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They are what makes Europe great. Actually they're the hardest working, the smartest, the tidiest, the cleanest,
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the most punctual. Those are values that I think are important. Actually I don't mock those. Those are real. I don't know
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how people who did everything the Germanic peoples did could allow themselves to be degraded and could
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internalize the hate and allow it to become selfhate. And whenever you bring even now I'm talking to you, I can tell
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it's making you uncomfortable I'm saying that. BILD: No, I don't have selfhate. Russia, it's like I don't have selfhate. CARLSON: But what what happened to Prussia? I
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don't understand. That's Berlin. Like what? How could you allow a foreign power to say you can no longer have a
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region? And no one in the subsequent years has ever said, "Wait a second. this is our country. We'll we'll call
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our regions whatever we want to call them. We're going to call this Prussia and we're going to boot out foreign troops. Doesn't mean we're going to
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invade anyone or be invaded. We are a great country. So any leader who doesn't say that has my contempt.
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BILD: If we talk about the situation right now, I would say that many Germans are happy
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that there is American troops on the ground. CARLSON: Sure they are. They’ve [Germans have] been brainwashed.
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BILD: Well, they're afraid. There's people who are afraid of Russia and of Russian troops. CARLSON: I’m sure your whole country is afraid of
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Russia and Russian troops. That's the sad thing. But you're not afraid of millions of migrants [from the lands that have been laid waste by U.S. coups and invasions] who are wrecking your country. And it's a kind of weird
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massochism with the Germans. And it bothers me because they don't deserve it because they're inherently impressive
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and have been for since they took down Rome. BILD: Who took down Rome? CARLSON: The Germanic tribes because they're amazing
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people. I don't think they should sack Rome. I'm not saying that. I think what happened obviously in your country in 80
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years was disgusting. I hate all that. Of course I hate all that. It's anti-Christian, anti-semitic. I hate
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everything about it. However, that doesn't mean that your culture is worthless or that you should give it up
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to people from nobody Africa. Like, what are you doing? And it's wrecking your
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country. And no one can say anything about it. What it does is like, oh, you're a Nazi. I'm not a Nazi. I'm a
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German. I want German. Germany for Germans. Like, why is that bad to say
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when you're at dinner with a German? And I'm like, what the hell is going on? Why are you letting all these people into
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your country to live on the street, rape people, trash your country? They're like, they can't talk about it. They get
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so like, shut up.
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BILD: Putin is a bit different. No, I mean he's he was an intelligence officer. He knows how to control emotions. CARLSON: They're
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all in. You know, that's what I'm not defending Putin, who I think has done a great job for Russia. Much better job than any German leader. That's for sure.
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Your country is going down. Russia's going up. You should be mad at your own leaders. You're mad at Putin instead.
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Makes me laugh. BILD: Putin is a war criminal instead. CARLSON: War criminal, right? BILD: Who? CARLSON: Well, Angal Merkel wrecked your country through mass
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migration. But she's not a criminal. How does that work? She literally wrecked your country. It will not
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recover in your lifetime or mine. But she's cool because why? BILD: I didn't say she's cool, but I mean — CARLSON: she's a criminal,
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She let millions of people into your country didn't and it hasn't worked.
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What is Ukraine? Is it a sovereign country? No. It exists at the
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pleasure of NATO. And that would be two main countries, the United States and Germany, its most important NATO ally.
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Now there is a provision in the NATO agreement which is often invoked in conversation that says when a NATO ally
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is attacked the other nations of NATO the signitories to the treaty defend that
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nation. So here you have a situation where
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Germany was attacked in the largest act of [U.S.] industrial sabotage [blowing up the Russian-German-owned Nord Stream pipelines] in human history was also the largest man-made CO2
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emission in history. By the way, I thought we were worried about the climate. Apparently not. And the United States did that. Now, whether they did
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it through the Norwegians or through the Ukrainians, it doesn't matter. The Biden administration said they were going to do it and they did it and they never
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denied it. And Germany sat there and allowed its main NATO ally to attack it.
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And then whenever you bring it up, as I have many times like, "Hey, German guy I'm having dinner with." Like, "What the
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was that? Why did you allow your NATO ally to destroy your main source of
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cheap energy?" And they're like, "Oh, shut up." And it's like, "Get some
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self-respect. Demand baseline treatment that any human being would
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demand. Don't lie to me. Don't sabotage my economy. Don't pretend to be my ally when you're actually hurting me." Like,
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the world would be a lot safer and happier and more prosperous. I mean, Germany leads Europe. Germany is Europe. That's that's my position as a
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non-European. It's like that is Europe. Then if Germany dies, if its economy dies, and it's dying, as you know,
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everyone's lying about it, but it is, then Europe is gone, and Europe is the
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light of the world. It's the light of the world. Everything from the printing press to democracy, everything that we
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care about comes from Europe. And it's lost confidence in itself.
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The whole people's standard of living is declining really fast. As you know, people are not having children. That's the clearest sign of
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civilizational collapse, obviously. So, there's a lot of pent-up rage and in
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Germany, a lot of it, as I've said 10 times, is self-hatred. There's a lot of rage in Europe, and I feel it every time
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I'm there. And so, the Russia Ukraine war is a perfect
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safety relief valve for European leaders to be like, "No, no, it's Putin's fault."
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Ukraine is the loser. Now I feel sorry for Ukraine. I feel sorry for Ukrainians who like many populations around the
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world have learned the hard lesson which is you follow the kind of fickle and mercurial dictates of the US government.
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You're not allowed to have certain opinions in Germany. They're illegal. They're against German law. You just said that. And that tells me
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conclusively that you do not live in a democracy. No matter what you tell yourself, it's a democracy. We've we elect people, lawmakers, we've got our
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chancellor. It's not a democracy unless the average person, the average citizen, the average Drummond can say what he
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thinks. If he's not allowed to say what he thinks, then he has no power. He has only fake power. If you can't say what
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you really think, what really matters to you, what you actually believe, whether I agree with it or not, then you are not
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a citizen. You are a slave. No different than German citizens were slaves at other periods in German history. And I'm
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just saying it's important if you're going to pretend to be a democracy to actually be one. That's all I'm saying.
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The issue of Germany’s providing 30% of the weapons for the extermination of Gazans and for the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from the West Bank was not raised, nor was America’s providing 69% of Israel’s weapons (and much of the planning for Israel’s attacks). Furthermore, the U.S., under Trump, has accelerated its participation in the extermination of the Gazans by allowing Israel to increasingly replace what had been U.N. food deliveries to Gaza by instead private ‘charities’ that are controlled by the U.S. Government which use their food supplies as bait (like “baiting the hook” in fishing) in order to more efficiently slaughter Gazans — bring them together for mass-slaughter. Here are highlights from two recent U.N. reports about this:
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https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/07/1165396
“Gaza: 875 people confirmed dead trying to source food in recent weeks”
15 July 2025
“As of 13 July, we have recorded 875 people killed in Gaza while trying to get food; 674 of them were killed in the vicinity of GHF sites,” said Thameen Al-Kheetan, OHCHR spokesperson, referencing the US-Israeli run private organization which has bypassed regular humanitarian operations.
The remaining 201 victims were killed while seeking food “on the routes of aid convoys or near aid convoys” run by the UN or UN-partners still operating in the war-shattered enclave, Mr. Al-Kheetan told journalists in Geneva.
Killings linked to the controversial US and Israeli-backed aid hubs began shortly after they started operating in southern Gaza on 27 May, bypassing the UN and other established NGOs. …
“Our teams on the ground - UNRWA teams and other United Nations teams - have spoken to survivors of these killings, these starving children included, who were shot at while on their way to pick up very little food,” said Juliette Touma, UNRWA Director of Communications. …
“We've been banned from bringing in any humanitarian assistance into Gaza for more than four months now,” she said, before pointing to a “significant increase” in child malnutrition since the Israeli blockade began on 2 March.
Ms. Touma added: “We have 6,000 trucks waiting in places like Egypt, like Jordan; it’s from Jordan to the Gaza Strip it's a three-hour drive, right?”
In addition to food supplies, these UN trucks contain other vital if basic supplies including bars of soap. “Medicine and food are going to soon expire if we're not able to get those supplies to people in Gaza who need it most, among them one million children who are half of the population of the Gaza Strip,” Ms. Touma continued.
West Bank: 'Silent war is surging'
Meanwhile in the occupied West Bank including East Jerusalem, Palestinians continue to be killed in violence allegedly linked to Israeli settlers and security forces, UN agencies said. …
“It is causing the largest population displacement of the Palestinians in the West Bank since 1967,” Ms. Touma continued.
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https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/07/1165457
“Gaza: UN staff now fainting from hunger, exhaustion; WHO worker detained”
22 July 2025
“Doctors, nurses, journalists, humanitarians, among them UNRWA staff, are hungry…fainting due to hunger and exhaustion while performing their duties,” said Juliette Touma, Director of Communications with the UN agency for Palestine refugees, UNRWA. …
The development comes as the UN human rights office, OHCHR, announced on Tuesday that more than 1,000 Palestinians have now been killed by the Israeli military while trying to get food in the Strip since the so-called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) started operating on 27 May.
“As of 21 July, we have recorded 1,054 people killed in Gaza while trying to get food,” said OHCHR spokesperson Thameen Al-Kheetan. “766 of them were killed in the vicinity of GHF sites and 288 near UN and other humanitarian organizations’ aid convoys.”
Mr. Al-Kheetan noted that the finding came from “multiple reliable sources on the ground, including medical teams, humanitarian and human rights organizations. It is still being verified in line with our strict methodology.”
The foundation’s hubs are supported by the US and Israeli authorities and started operating in southern Gaza on 27 May, bypassing the UN and other established non-governmental organizations (NGOs).
“The so-called GHF distribution scheme is a sadistic death-trap,” UNRWA’s Ms. Touma said. “Snipers open fire randomly on crowds as if they're given a license to kill.”
Quoting a statement by UNRWA head Philippe Lazzarini, Ms. Touma called the scheme a “massive hunt of people in total impunity”.
“This cannot be our new norm. Humanitarian assistance is not the job of mercenaries,” she added. …
“We at UNRWA have stocks of hygiene supplies, including diapers for babies and for adults waiting outside the gates of Gaza,” Ms. Touma stressed, insisting that the agency has 6,000 trucks loaded with food, medicines and hygiene supplies waiting in Egypt and in Jordan to be allowed into the enclave.
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Also on July 22nd, America’s own National Public Radio headlined “Agence France-Presse says it wants to pull its hunger-stricken journalists out of Gaza” but hid — said nothing about — the U.S. Government’s participation in this exterminate-the-Gazans operation. The unconcern about it by Trump’s voting-base, and the merely hypocritical concern about it by America’s liberal colonies (‘allies’), such as Canada, Switzerland, and Sweden, will then have created the world’s first-ever genocide that is demonstrable in real time but univerally allowed notwithstanding the blatancy of its violating international laws.
However, this blatancy is destroying the U.N. I have elsewhere described how I think that the U.N. ought to be replaced, or else its Charter Amended, in order to end America’s hegemony over the world without a nuclear war that would kill half of the world’s populations within two years after the explosions.
America’s Democrats respond to all this by blaming the Republicans, and its Republicans instead blame the Democrats, but BOTH American Parties are controlled by America’s approximately 1,000 billionaires, and their only differences from one-another concern how blatantly their agents should rule the country on behalf of the billionaires. Of course, none of that was mentioned by Carlson. He always ignores this reality. As he said, “I’m a not very self-aware person.” He thus supports Trump, who appointed as America’s top General in Europe a man who now is threatening, and is planning, to invade Russia, in order to take a region of Russia. Blaming Democrats is just as stupid as blaming Republicans. Both Parties are intensely neoconservative — fascist-imperialist. Both are controlled by their megadonors. Carlson ignores that reality.
If anyone here knows Carlson and can send this commentary to him, I would much appreciate it, because I would like to discuss these matters with him, not just write about them.
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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse’s latest book, AMERICA’S EMPIRE OF EVIL: Hitler’s Posthumous Victory, and Why the Social Sciences Need to Change, is about how America took over the world after World War II in order to enslave it to U.S.-and-allied billionaires. Their cartels extract the world’s wealth by control of not only their ‘news’ media but the social ‘sciences’ — duping the public.
