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Col. Douglas Macgregor: Russia Will Win Ukraine War Within Next 90 Days.

6 August 2025, by Eric Zuesse. (All of my recent articles can be seen here.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf5pRkgew8U

“Col. Macgregor: Ukraine Headed for COLLAPSE, U.S. NOT Ready for WAR with Russia”

Transcript

0:00

RACHEL BLEVINS: It is August 6, 2025 and Trump keeps

0:04

issuing new threats against Russia. But

0:06

now we have reports that his special

0:08

envoy Steve Wickoff is headed to Moscow

0:11

for direct talks. So will that solve

0:14

anything? or well we get more of the

0:16

same old same old where Wickoff goes

0:19

there he's there for hours he comes back

0:21

he maybe says something logical about

0:23

how the US should work with Russia and

0:26

then Secretary of State Marco Rubio gets

0:28

a hold of it and we see more Biden era

0:32

policy more sanctions against Russia

0:34

more pressure on Russia and more lethal

0:37

aid for Ukraine and what else should we

0:39

be keeping an eye on when it comes to

0:41

the ongoing tensions in the Middle East

0:43

as we know that the US and Israel are

0:46

not done with their goals of

0:48

destabilizing and encircling Iran. Well,

0:51

we got into all of the latest with the

0:53

special guest earlier. So, let's take a

0:55

listen to that conversation. Now,

0:58

joining me now to discuss is retired US

1:01

Army Colonel Douglas McGregor, a defense

1:03

and foreign policy analyst and former

1:06

adviser to the US Secretary of Defense.

1:09

Colonel McGregor, thanks so much for

1:11

taking the time to join me.

1:12

Sure. Good to be here. Always good to

1:15

have you on the show. Now, I want to get

1:17

your take on the latest here. I know

1:19

that in recent weeks, we've seen

1:20

President Trump issue one ultimatum

1:23

after another to Russia really bringing

1:26

up the deadline to the point where we're

1:28

looking at his latest deadline being at

1:30

the end of this week for Russia to make

1:32

a deal. Now, Moscow doesn't seem to be

1:35

too concerned. I know there are reports

1:37

that special envoy Steve Wickoff is

1:40

supposed to be headed to Russia for

1:41

talks this week. So maybe something will

1:44

come out of that. But how do you see

1:45

this current situation and Trump's

1:47

rhetoric of just continuing to double

1:50

down here?

1:51

MACGREGOR: Today I received uh a rough translation

1:54

of an announcement that included a

1:56

statement from the Russian general staff,

1:59

and the Russian general staff said that

2:01

uh within 90 days, Ukraine, its military,

2:05

its front, everything, should collapse.

2:08

Now that's probably at the outside.

2:10

Remember, they're now recruiting

2:12

battalions of boys and old men. So,

2:16

that's not a good sign because most of

2:18

the other eligible young men are killed

2:20

or wounded and those losses are

2:22

horrific. So, I think this sort of

2:25

tragedy is is grinding to an eventual

2:28

end. Now, what will the Russians do? I

2:31

think they're going to control most

2:32

everything that's east of the Dnieper River.

2:35

I think that once they reach the Dnieper

2:37

River, there will be another window of

2:38

opportunity for the Europeans to talk to

2:41

them. And the Europeans who are of

2:44

greatest importance are not sitting in

2:46

London and Paris. They're sitting in

2:48

Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland,

2:50

Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, and Muldova.

2:54

And those are the people that really

2:55

need — and you could add Germany because

2:57

Germany has a long history and

2:58

connection with that region of the

3:00

world.

3:01

But, you know, those are the people that

3:03

really need — to sit down with uh the

3:05

Russian military and political leaders,

3:07

and say, "Look, this, we recognize what

3:10

you've done, and we want to come to a

3:11

conclusion." Now, why didn't I mention

3:13

Washington? I think we're irrelevant.

3:17

I mean, you can only lie so many times.

3:20

We've lied to the Iranians. And of

3:22

course, the most recent lie involved

3:24

this terrible strike by Israel against

3:26

Iran that then subsequently the Israelis

3:30

desperately needed to stop because the

3:32

Iranians, despite the Israeli attacks,

3:34

were inflicting enormous damage [on Israel]. Well,

3:36

now I think we've been through something

3:37

similar to that with the Russians. You,

3:39

going all the way back to the Cold War

3:40

if you like, at the end of it. The

3:42

promises that were made then the the

3:44

Budapest memorandum,

3:46

subsequently the [U.S.] coup in in Kiev, then

3:49

the Minsk Accords. You can also go

3:52

through the various arms control

3:53

arrangements that we have unilaterally

3:54

abandoned like the INF.

3:57

Uh I I think the — I think the Russians

3:59

will be polite to Mr. Witkoff. They are

4:02

always polite to a fault, which I always

4:05

admire very much. That used to be a

4:07

hallmark of the British. It isn't

4:09

anymore. And it used to generally

4:12

describe us, but now we behave badly. We

4:15

emote, say stupid things, and we make

4:19

assertions that are untrue. So, I I

4:22

think they'll be nice to Mr. Witkoff, but

4:24

I don't think they're going to pay much

4:25

attention. And the idea of more

4:27

sanctions,

4:29

well, let's stop and consider what's

4:31

been happening. The Japanese have said,

4:32

"Thank you very much. We're going to buy

4:34

as much oil and gas from the Russians as

4:36

we want." So will the Chinese. So will

4:39

the Koreans. I'm talking about the

4:40

Koreans in the South. Uh today the

4:44

Australians have completely reversed

4:46

their positions on almost everything.

4:48

They're now buying military equipment

4:50

from uh Japan, ships and other things.

4:53

In other words, everyone frankly is

4:55

moving away from us and this thing

4:57

called bricks and dedollarization are now

5:00

on steroids. So, you know, my view is

5:03

that uh I I don't know what Mr. Trump

5:06

expects, but at this stage of the game,

5:08

I think he's irrelevant. Now, we can

5:11

talk about the the nuclear threats and

5:13

those other things that he's recently

5:14

made, but still I think, I think he's no

5:17

longer relevant to the outcome.

5:20

BLEVINS: And that's an interesting way to look at

5:22

it, too, especially given how involved

5:25

the U.S. was at getting us to this point

5:28

where now you have the Trump

5:29

administration in this situation where,

5:31

they know, that there is no quote-unquote

5:33

winning the war in Ukraine. They're not

5:35

even succeeding at weakening Russia. But

5:38

when it comes to the position that

5:40

Europe is in, kind of as you were noting

5:42

there, do you see them being the EU and

5:45

the UK as having the autonomy to be able

5:49

to make decisions here or does it seem

5:52

like they're still kind of under the

5:54

influence of Washington when it comes to

5:57

the ways in which they negotiate or

5:59

don't whatsoever with Russia? MACGREGOR: Well, you

6:02

know, most of us that voted for

6:03

President Trump did so because we saw

6:06

him as the antidote to globalism.

6:09

Uh he's now transformed into the leader

6:11

of the globalist cause. Starmer in

6:15

London, Macrone in France, Merz in

6:19

Berlin. These are card carrying club

6:22

members of the globalist club. Uh they

6:25

hate Russia because Russia is a nation

6:27

that has a national identity. It has a

6:30

population that Russia wants to protect.

6:32

It has a culture they want to nourish,

6:35

people, human beings we call Russians

6:38

that they want to survive. And so they

6:40

refuse to open their borders.

6:43

Now, they've been very successful, by

6:45

the way, and I don't think they ever get

6:46

any credit for this at how they've

6:48

managed to assimilate and integrate

6:50

Muslim populations into the Russian

6:54

nation, and they've got good relations

6:56

with the Muslim, Turkish, Mongolian

6:58

peoples in Central Asia.

7:01

Again, you know, we never talk about it.

7:02

We don't bring it up because we don't

7:04

credit anybody with doing anything right

7:05

ever, unless it's ourselves. But I think

7:07

we should understand that. Uh so I think

7:10

Russia is a success story that if you're

7:12

a globalist, it must be destroyed.

7:16

And look at Europe right now. England is

7:19

facing more than just civil unrest. I

7:21

think they're close to civil conflict.

7:24

Uh, I think we're talking about a

7:26

rebellion that's going to spread and

7:27

remove the elites from power. Uh, I

7:30

wrote a piece called Versailles on the

7:32

Potomac, where I tried to outline what had

7:33

happened in France in

7:35

the runup to 1789.

7:38

The the loss of confidence in

7:39

institutions, the loss of confidence in

7:42

the in the ruling political classes, uh,

7:45

the loss of confidence in the country

7:47

itself and its ability to govern, its

7:49

ability to be productive and so forth.

7:52

Then of course, it's military. They lost

7:54

confidence in that. I think they're all

7:56

on the same road right now in in central

7:59

west Europe. The nations that face less

8:02

of this or almost none of it are of

8:05

course in Eastern Europe because there

8:07

the people have protected their

8:09

populations. The Croats, the Slovenians,

8:12

the Serbs, the Hungarians, the Poles,

8:16

the Slovaks, the Czechs, they've all

8:18

protected their countries. They haven't

8:20

opened the borders and allowed, you

8:22

know, this flood of non-Europeans to

8:24

come in who are not coming in to become

8:27

part of anything. They're, if anything,

8:29

they're there to assimilate the people

8:30

that already live there and establish

8:31

their own states. So,

8:34

I I think all of this is going to work

8:37

ultimately to President Putin's

8:39

advantage. Uh, but these governments

8:42

have to change. I think he's exercised

8:43

enormous patience in anticipation of

8:46

these changes coming. I think they will

8:48

come.

8:50

But uh right now, you know, we're

8:52

dealing with the the status quo, and the

8:55

status quo is something that President

8:56

Trump foolishly has been recruited to

8:59

defend. In reality, we elected him as

9:02

the anti-status-quo candidate who would

9:05

lead us out of it. Uh so I I don't know

9:08

what to say except that Russia is going

9:10

to win this. They will decide the

9:12

ultimate outcome. They'll set the

9:13

boundaries, but they're not stupid. They

9:16

are not interested in governing

9:18

Ukrainians in the west. They're not

9:19

interested in governing anybody who's

9:22

not a Russian. This is more of a

9:24

Dostoyevsky

9:26

Solzhenitsyn

9:28

government and mentality that

9:31

desperately wants Russia to be secure

9:33

and safe and productive, doesn't wish

9:36

anybody else ill, and certainly doesn't

9:37

want to govern anybody else. But we

9:40

don't get it.

9:40

BLEVINS: The US has its own way of going

9:42

about things, its own, you know, quote

9:44

unquote regime change wars. And they

9:46

don't understand why Russia didn't go

9:48

into Kiev on day one and take out

9:50

Zalinski and his team, they don't

9:53

understand why Russia has fought this

9:55

war of attrition up until this point.

9:58

And you know, when it comes to the US

10:01

and the way that they do things, going

10:03

back to a point that you made earlier

10:05

with all of these threats, they're not

10:06

just threats against Russia. You've also

10:09

got Trump now openly threatening

10:11

countries that trade with Russia, such

10:13

as, say, India. You've got Trump on

10:16

social media criticizing India and

10:18

saying he's considering raising tariffs

10:20

for their purchases of Russian oil. And

10:24

I thought it was interesting that New

10:26

Delhi fired back and pointed out that

10:28

the EU was still Russia's third largest

10:31

trading partner in 2024. So, it's always

10:35

interesting how the U.S. is very

10:36

particular about the countries that it

10:38

wants to target. But when it comes to

10:40

the way that the U.S. is handling things,

10:42

trying to threaten all of these

10:44

different countries into submission, to

10:46

me, that makes it seem like those

10:48

countries would just want to not work

10:50

with the U.S., focus on working with each

10:53

other, and pursuing the further increase

10:56

of the multipolar world. Is that what

10:59

you think we're getting to even if it's

11:00

not necessarily something that's going

11:02

to happen overnight?

11:03

MACGREGOR: Well, nothing happens along the lines

11:05

that you just described overnight. Uh,

11:08

you know, India is it's kind of

11:10

interesting. Somebody in the White House

11:13

should do the mathematics and that means

11:16

let's add up who lives in China, India,

11:20

Korea, Japan, Malaysia, Indonesia,

11:24

uh, Pakistan. In other words, let's just —

11:26

How many people are we talking about?

11:28

You know, wake up!

11:31

This is this is the majority of the

11:33

world's population, and you're bending

11:35

over backwards to do what? Harm it? Uh

11:38

it's it's just self-defeating on a scale

11:41

that's hard to imagine.

11:43

But

11:45

he thinks, I I believe President Trump in

11:48

this whole make America great again —he

11:51

started from the premise that the

11:53

America of 1991

11:55

was still intact along with its armed

11:58

forces. It's not.

12:01

Our problems here at home greatly

12:03

outweigh any concerns that we have

12:05

overseas. There was a time when I think

12:07

he understood that, and that's when he

12:08

said, you know, these Europeans really

12:10

need to be their own first responders.

12:12

You know, we can't be expected to show

12:14

up on a moment's notice and defend

12:15

anybody. It doesn't work in in today's

12:17

world. The problem in Europe, as you

12:20

know, is that we have lots and lots of

12:22

nations or states or both that never

12:27

existed as independent nations or

12:29

states. You know, I remember when I had

12:32

to go for the first time to Bosnia

12:34

and had to deal with the Clinton

12:37

administration (they) kept saying, you

12:39

understand that Bosnia, this is not a

12:41

nation. This is a region and in the

12:45

region you have various people that have

12:47

lived here for a very long time and it

12:51

matters. The history of this place

12:53

matters, and nobody wanted to accept

12:56

that. Oh, well, they're all basically

12:57

the same. I said, "No, I think if you

12:59

sit down with them, they'll explain to

13:01

you that they're not the same. I mean,

13:03

it’s, this is a stupidity that erupts,

13:07

and we don't understand that." Uh, and

13:10

as a result, wherever we meddle, we tend

13:12

to create chaos. And if anybody thinks

13:15

that the status quo in the Balkans is

13:16

going to last, they're crazy. So, well,

13:19

it's been stable for 20 years.

13:22

20 years is the fraction of a second in

13:24

the history of that part of the world.

13:27

And nobody ever wanted to pay attention

13:28

to the fact that the Russians have

13:30

interests there. In fact, one Romanian

13:33

pointed out to me. He said, “Look, if

13:34

you keep pushing this thing, you'll find

13:36

out who the landlord is down here. It's

13:38

Moscow.”

13:40

Well, nobody wants to accept that. But

13:41

it's true. But the view of Moscow [there] is not

13:44

negative. After all, these are the

13:46

people that were liberated from the

13:48

Ottomans. So, we we have no

13:51

understanding for any of this sort of

13:52

thing. So I I don't know what we can

13:56

expect from the United States uh in the

13:58

short run other than more of the same

14:00

and that's what we're getting from

14:01

Donald Trump. Maybe the looming

14:04

financial crisis will put an end to it

14:06

because once things get rough here,

14:08

everyone will lose interest in

14:09

everything overseas. But in Europe

14:12

itself, Europeans have to get rid of

14:14

these governments, particularly in

14:16

France, Germany, uh Great Britain. And I

14:19

love Meloni. She's great. But uh the

14:23

Italians need much much firmer

14:25

leadership if they're going to survive

14:26

as well. And I think the same thing is

14:28

true in Spain. These things are going to

14:30

happen. And I know what will happen in

14:32

this country when they do occur. Well,

14:34

that's terrible.

14:36

In reality, you're talking about

14:38

governments of national salvation that

14:40

will come to power that will save these

14:43

countries. That's where we're headed. I

14:45

just don't know when. I feel like Nassim

14:47

Taleb, Nassim Taleb, I’m a great admirer of his. He's

14:50

always being attacked by people who say, you

14:53

know, now come on. You say we're going

14:54

to have this financial arm Armageddon. When's

14:56

this going to happen? And he says,

14:57

"Well, I can't give you the exact date,

15:00

time, and hour, but it's coming and

15:02

we're closer than we've ever been." He

15:04

said that back in March. He's right. I

15:07

think the same thing is true in the

15:08

countries I just described. You're about

15:10

to see dramatic change in these places.

15:12

And a lot of it is not going to be what

15:14

people want to watch on television.

15:16

I'm sorry. you know, if these people are

15:19

going to survive, it's going to be

15:20

rough. And Russia is not the enemy. And

15:23

I think that's what people are going to

15:24

increasingly discover. It isn't.

15:26

BLEVINS: Yeah, when you have all of these

15:28

governments in Europe that have spent

15:30

several years riding high on this

15:32

promise of Russia is the enemy, Russia's

15:35

about to attack any day now if we don't

15:37

send, you know, another billion dollars

15:39

in weapons over to Ukraine. Well, that

15:41

only lasts for so long. So, I I'm with

15:44

you. I'm curious to see kind of what

15:47

happens there and if there is a massive

15:49

movement as people start to wake up and

15:51

realize that they have been completely

15:53

sold out by their governments. Now,

15:56

while I have you here, I do want to also

15:58

ask you about the latest happening in

16:00

the Middle East as I know we're kind of

16:01

keeping an eye on the situation there.

16:04

Right now, you have this ceasefire with

16:07

Iran that has remained intact, but there

16:09

are still concerns that this war is not

16:12

over. I know that Israel is not done

16:14

with it on their end, but the Iranian

16:16

government did announce on Sunday that

16:18

it has formed a new national defense

16:21

council for handling the country's

16:23

affairs in wartime. This for the first

16:25

time since the Iran Iraq war during the

16:28

1980s. So, how do you view the situation

16:32

with Iran? How concerned are you about

16:35

more violence breaking out or even about

16:37

the U.S. and Israel trying to pursue

16:39

further operations aimed at

16:41

destabilizing Tehran?

16:43

MACGREGOR: Well, remember the failed strategy that

16:45

was pursued against Russia uh is now

16:48

being employed against Iran.

16:50

Just as the original goal was to destroy

16:53

Russian national sovereignty and

16:56

stability, regime change, remove Putin

16:59

and his government, replace it with some

17:01

lackier puppet from the West, eventually

17:03

divide up Russia, strip it of its

17:05

resources. Well, that that's the new

17:07

strategy against Iran. That's what the

17:10

bankers in New York City and London

17:11

want. Uh that's effectively the charge

17:14

that President Trump is leading. That's

17:16

what the people that dominate the White

17:18

House, the National Security Council

17:19

staff, they're all part of it. It's the

17:21

Israel first administration. But it's

17:24

larger than Israel. It's it's this

17:26

globalist cause and it's to gain control.

He continues in the remaining ten minutes by providing a brilliant description of the geostrategic aims of the heads of Syria, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Iran, Israel and Egypt, all showing that America’s Government is on the wrong side in all of them: supporting Israel, all-Qaeda, ISIS, the Muslim Brotherhood (Qatar), against the publics in each of those countries, and thereby pushing to destabilize each of those countries (which will further boost the sales-volumes of U.S. corporations such as Lockheed, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Northrop, Starlink, Space X, Palantir, etc. — suppliers to the militaries). America’s economy and Government now are based upon and serving the owners of the manufacturers for the militaries, above all else. 

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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse’s latest book, AMERICA’S EMPIRE OF EVIL: Hitler’s Posthumous Victory, and Why the Social Sciences Need to Change, is about how America took over the world after World War II in order to enslave it to U.S.-and-allied billionaires. Their cartels extract the world’s wealth by control of not only their ‘news’ media but the social ‘sciences’ — duping the public.