Date: Sunday, 02 March 2025
https://ericzuesse.substack.com/p/the-trump-v-zelensky-comedy-show
https://theduran.com/the-trump-v-zelensky-comedy-show-and-why
The Trump-v.-Zelensky Comedy Show, and Why I Still Expect Russia to Win and Take Ukraine From the U.S.
1 February 2025, by Eric Zuesse. (All of my recent articles can be seen here.)
This is a commentary upon the (Democratic Party’s — or liberal — billionaires’) ‘Public Broadcasting System’s (PBS) youtube video of the dispute that took place in the White House on February 28th between Donald Trump and Volodmyr Zelensky (who knows that the 2014 overthrow and replacement of Ukraine’s democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych was illegal and that all subsequent Ukrainian leaders including himself are illegal and even unConstitutional (though he doesn’t know how it happened — he doesn’t know that the U.S. Government arranged it).
Here is that video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVCgT9Vtrc
“WATCH: Zelenskyy meeting blows up as Trump suggests Ukrainian president needs to be more grateful”
You see there Zelensky addressing Trump as-if Trump is his student who needs to be taught the history of this war, and as-if this history is entirely violations by “Putin,” who must therefore be stopped before “Putin” will be invading America too. Previous U.S. Presidents (Obama and Biden) have, of course, been trumpeting the very same propaganda-line to whip up hatred against Putin; and, so, ‘news’ magazines all over the U.S. empire have published on their front covers Zelensky’s face along with headlines such as “PERSON OF THE YEAR” and “Hero of our Times”. It’s George Orwell’s 1984, all over again.
During the coup in Ukraine on 20-26 February 2014, which U.S. President Obama’s Administration led brilliantly, the U.S. Government took over a neutralist coutry, which has by-far the nearest-of-all border to blitz-attacking-and-destroying The Kremlin, which is less than 317 miles away, and Obama’s designer and leader of that coup, who had been former Vice President Dick Cheney’s rabidly neoconservative foreign-affairs advisor Victoria Nuland, brilliantly selected as Ukraine’s new leader a man she affectionately called “Yats,” who hated Russia so passionately he was hoping to destroy Russia.
This was a shocking turn-around from what had previously been the (post-1991) predominantly democratic Ukraine, in which polls showed that overwhelmingly, Ukrainians regarded Russia as their protector, and America and its NATO anti-Russian military alliance as being their nation’s enemy. Almost immediately after the U.S. Government took over Ukraine and its ‘news’-media, that public perception by Ukrainians switched to pro-NATO and anti-Russian, because of the enforced propaganda.
So: Zelensky naturally offended Trump, and here are excerpts:
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ZELENSKY: Do you, and now I'm talking with my friends in Poland, and they are,
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they are worried that you align yourself too much with Putin.
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What's your message for them? TRUMP: Well, if I didn't align myself with
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both of them, you'd never have a deal. You want me to say
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really terrible things about Putin and then say hi, Vladimir, how
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are we doing on the deal? It doesn't work that way. I'm not aligned
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with Putin. I'm not aligned with anybody. I'm aligned with the United
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States of America and for the good of the world. I'm aligned with
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the world, and I want to get this thing over with. [The camera-view has now drawn back enough to show that Trump is looking actually NOT at Zelensky but at someone else — not being shown — in the room, and so he isn’t even addressing Zelensky but is instead addressing someone else, in order to respond to Zelensky’s accusation.] You see, the hatred
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he's got for Putin, it's very tough for me to make a deal with that
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kind of hatred. He's got tremendous hatred, and I understand that, but
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I can tell you the other side isn't exactly in love with, you know,
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him either. Uh, so it's not a question of alignment. I have to, I'm
0:52
aligned with the world. I want to get the things set. I'm aligned
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with Europe. I want to see if we can get this thing done.
1:00
You want me to be tough? I could be tougher than any human being
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you've ever seen. I'd be so tough. But you're never going to get
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a deal that way, so that's the way it goes. All right, one more question.
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V.P. VANCE BREAKS IN: I will respond to this. So look,
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for 4 years in the United States of America, we had a president who
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stood up at press conferences and talked tough about Vladimir Putin
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and then Putin invaded Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk
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of the country. The path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe
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engaging in diplomacy. We tried the pathway of Joe Biden of thumping
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our chest and pretending that the President of the United States's
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words mattered more than the President of the United States’s actions.
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What makes America a good country is America engaging in diplomacy.
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That's what President Trump is doing. ZELENSKY: Can I ask you? VANCE: Sure, yeah,
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yeah. OK. ZELENSKY: So, He occupied it, uh, our parts, big parts of Ukraine,
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parts of the east and Crimea, so he occupied it in 2014.
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So,
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during a lot of years, I'm not speaking about just Biden, but those
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times was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump, then
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President Biden. Now the President Trump — and God bless now President
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Trump — will stop him, but during 2014, nobody stopped him. He just
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occupied and took. He killed people, you know what the — TRUMP: 2015.
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ZELENSKY: 2014 2014. TRUMP: 2014. ZELENSKY: Yeah, yeah. TRUMP: So I was, I was not here. Yeah, but —
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ZELENSKY: That's exactly right. Yes, but during 2014 until 2022,
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you what the situation the same people are been dying on the contact
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line. Nobody stopped him, you know that we had conversations with
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him, a lot of conversation, my bilateral conversation
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and we signed with him, me, like a new president in 2019, I signed
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with him the deal. I signed with him, Macron and Merkel was signed
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ceasefire, ceasefire, all of them told me that he will never go we
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signed him gas contract, gas contract.
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Yes, but after that he broken the ceasefire. He killed our people,
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and he didn't exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners,
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but he didn't do it. What kind of diplomacy, J.D.,
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you are speaking about what, what, what do you mean? VANCE: I'm talking
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about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of
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your country, Mr. President. [ZELENSKY tries to break in.]] Mr. President, with respect, I think
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it's disrespectful for you to come to the Oval Office to try to litigate
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this in front of the American media. Right now, you guys are going
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around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have
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manpower problems. You should be thanking the President for trying
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to bring an end to this conflict — ZELENSKY breaks in: To Ukraine, you say what problems
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we have. VANCE: I have been to
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I have actually, I've actually watched and seen the stories, and
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I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda
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tour, Mr. President. Do you disagree that you've had problems like
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bringing people into your military, and do you think that it's respectful
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to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack
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the Administration that is trying to, trying to prevent the destruction
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of your country? ZELENSKY: A lot of, a lot of questions, let's start from the
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beginning. Sure. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems,
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even you, but you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will
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feel it in the future. TRUMP: God bless, you don't know that. God bless.
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ZELENSKY: You're not blessed. You will not have war. TRUMP: Don't tell us what we're
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going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what
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we're going to feel. [ZELENSKY repeatedlhy tries to interrup Trump in this entire passage.] I’m not telling you, you're in no position to
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dictate that. That's what you're doing. You're in no position to
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dictate what we're going to feel. We're going to feel very good.
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We're going to feel very good and very strong.
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You're right now not in a very good position. You've
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allowed yourself to be in a very bad position and he [pointing to Vance] happens to be
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right about it. You’re not
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in a good position. You don't have the cards right now. With
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us, you start having cards. Right now, you don't. You're gambling
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with the lives of millions of people.
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You're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with World War
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3, and what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country,
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this country,
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that's far more than a lot of people said
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they should have. VANCE: Have you said thank you once? No, in this meeting.
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You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the
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opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for the United
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States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.
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ZELENSKY: Please, you think that if you will speak very loudly about the war. [By this time, Zelensky’s interruptions are so rapid-fire that this entire passage is now an incomprehensible jumble.]
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TRUMP: He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly. VANCE: Your country
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is in big trouble. [Zelensky again tries to interrupt Trump.] Wait a minute. No, no, you've done a lot of talking.
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Your country is in big trouble. I know you're not winning. You're
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not winning this. You have a damn good chance of coming out OK because
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of us. ZELENSKY: We are staying in our country, staying strong from the very
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beginning of the war. We've been alone and we are thankful. I said
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thanks. TRUMP: You haven't been in this cabinet in this cabinet. Gave you
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through this stupid president $350 billion military equipment, and
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you met a brave, but they had to use our military if you didn't have
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our military equipment. You invite if you didn't have our military
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equipment, this war would have been over in 2 weeks, ZELENSKY: in 3 days. I
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heard it from Putin, in 3 days. This is something maybe less in 2
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weeks, of course he has. TRUMP: It's going to be a very hard thing to do
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business like this, say thank you. ZELENSKY: I said it.
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VANCE: Except that they're American, except that there are disagreements
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and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight
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it out in the American media when you're wrong. We know that you're
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wrong. TRUMP: But you see, I think it's good for the American people to
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see what's going on. I think it's very important. That's why I kept
7:05
this going so long.
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And it ended at 11:00 when they kicked Zelensky out of the White House/
The reason I still this that Russia will take all of Ukraine isn’t that Putin WANTS to, but because when Obama turned it against Russia in 2013-2014 and after, Russia is going to NEED to control Ukraine for quite a while in order to denazify it — which Russians didn’t WANT to do after Ukraine became independent in 1991 — AND, now that Zelensky, Biden, and Obama, and the dictatorship that the U.S. Government brought to Ukraine, is pouring out into the U.S.-and-allied public’s view and can’t be hidden nearly to the extent that it has been; increasingly the entire world will come to recognize the types of leaders that the U.S. has been having thus far this century, in all their authentic gory.
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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse’s latest book, AMERICA’S EMPIRE OF EVIL: Hitler’s Posthumous Victory, and Why the Social Sciences Need to Change, is about how America took over the world after World War II in order to enslave it to U.S.-and-allied billionaires. Their cartels extract the world’s wealth by control of not only their ‘news’ media but the social ‘sciences’ — duping the public.